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The deviantART News system in version 5 has been revised from the bottom-up. The old code has been removed and rewritten from scratch to include all the new features we were planning for. As most of you, v4 users, can see, it is in many ways different from the old system. We hope that you enjoy using the news system to find "what's up on art" as well as to submit your own news articles as much as we did developing it.

Decentralized
In v5 News, there's no news administration. Well, not in the same sense as v4, anyway. Any logged-in deviant can post news articles, which do no longer need to be reviewed by administrators before being posted. Just click on "Submit News", paste your article in, write a summary, fill-in the title and that's it. You can preview your news submission before publishing it, to make sure there are no mistakes (you won't be able to edit your article later). When you're ready, submit your article, and see it on "Newest" ( news.deviantart.com/browse/fro… ). It's there, read it, link your friends to it, write comments, and +love it.

Popular News
The part a lot of users find confusing is the "Popular News" tab. Well, this is where good news articles go, and this is what's displayed to deviants that click on the "News" tab (Popular is being defaulted). It's "frontpage news". Popular news are updated every now and then to reflect the popularity of our existing news articles. They aren't picked by administrators, but rather by a computer algorithm. Any article can become popular; not only admin articles -- even your own news article could go up there. Just make sure your article is well-written, clear, and informational, and it surely will.

+heart
Ratings is another cool thing with this new system. If you find a well-written article that you think is worth reading, click on the little +heart to love it. Loved articles have many more chances of becoming popular. You can love your own articles, your friends' articles, anyone's articles! One thing to remember, though -- you can love each article only once.

Submit!
So, go ahead and submit your own news article right now, see it take its position within the "Newest" articles, love it, have your friends read it and love it in their turn if they want, and, why not, watch it get into "Popular"!

Any suggestions on the new News system? Complaints? News ideas? Just leave a comment here! We'll make sure we read every single comment and consider it.

Happy news hunting!

--dionyziz
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Redandwhite Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
Haha I was the 100th person to +love this article.... Good stuff, well written and very informative
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jarofjuice Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2006
:w00t:
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xexa Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2006
Great feature!
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Birgit-Zartl-Art Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2006  Professional Traditional Artist
Excuse me, but this isn't a great achievement; it's hard to find any interesting articles (I mean which contain information and not which are interesting in a psychiatric way) among the "I don't know what to post"-crap...there's also a table of contents missing, so someone can choose art categories or contests or whatever there may be other....
I think in such a large community there has to be some coordination and selection method regarding the news....
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crazyken517 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
really? i much prefer the the v4, but i guess it'll take a while to get used to this, i mean it took me like 5 min to find the submit journal thing
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AnnikaAstra Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Writer
Is there a way though for admin articles to still stand out in some manner? So we can still be aware of site news/contests/miscellanious information? It's hard to keep up with those thinsg when everytime I refresh the page there are ten new news articles...many of them irrelevant, spam, or complaining about the irrelevance and spam

can admin articles that are site related still pop up as Hot topics? And what about the weekly community updates?
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litlxchopstikz Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
DA looks great, well since it IS written from scratch...then i guess we shoudl juss be cooperative and fix those little gliches here and there and make the best out of it..i love the colors tho...SO MUCH BETTER THAN DA4
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alana-m Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Personally, I think it's a neat idea - I've always had an idea of doing a features article but never got around to doing it before. It's going to be abused at first, but the novelty of being able to post what you want will very quickly wear off for the spammers.
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bloodyfallenangel Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
i like the new feature... but dont you think its better to put different thread for users and admin? quite unorganized.

there should be different categories.

News - associated with DeviantArt and its Administrators.

Posts - articles/announcements by DA users.

- - -

about the new lay-out...better now. Honestly i dont feel the new color... instead of blue why not bring back the old color.
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stabbedbycupid Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006   Writer
I'm in favor of the new system in that it makes it easier for deviants to get their news posted, and I like the voting system. I do, however, think that the staff news articles (community updates, site updates, ect.) should have a seperate section, or be stickied somehow so that they are easy to access. I mostly read the news to know whats going on with the site.
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ppgrainbow Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
"uh-oh..." :rofl:

Seriously, that "uh-oh..." feature" can be abused quite easily if deviants are not careful. :|

Most people are complaining that the news system is turning out to be a joke, because of some inexperienced deviants posting what they like and that some of the functions in the news article are not working properly. :(

I hope that it gets fixed soon. It also suck that there might not be a Weekly Community Development Update for a while, because the CSS functions in the article are not working properly and that some deviants have their jollies of ruining the enjoyment. :(

Infact, there should be no "uh-oh..." vote for administrators who post news articles.
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Dibi Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
i want to see the news that the staff posts. there are so many 'news' that one can get lost
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Marker-Guru Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Traditional Artist
There is too much junk in the news now.
shouldnt there be some kind of screening system to weed out the "be my friend" and "look at my art" threads?

its just like an unsorted forum topic right now.
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Seikin Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
I myself find no use for the feature, I probably won't read any of that news, as I assume weekly developments and such will still be given to us via message center.

If I find an important matter I may make an news article, I find that nice, but It should be moderated wthout a doubt, some of the complete irrelevance is ridiculous.
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walloftruth Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
:heart: You're doing a great job so far, hun.
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championchap Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
very Digg.com.. but, i notice (unless im just being ignorant) that unlike Digg.com, there is no way to check out our +loved articles at a later date

there is no list showing what we have "loved"
will there be in future perhaps?
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AnnikaAstra Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Writer
That's what I originally assumed it woudl be. WHen they talked about this in dav5 before it came out, I thought it would be like :fav:ing something...there'd be a list or somehting of articles you liked, so you could go back to it, or other people could see
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championchap Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
perhaps its just a yet to be included feature?
i hope so anyway.. as is.. this sstem feels very empty indeed
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Bekindi Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Student
Wow that's really interesting :) Does it have to be art related or just general random news? :P
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attila Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Hobbyist Photographer
"The part a lot of users find confusing is the "Popular News" tab. Well, this is where good news articles go"

The "Popular" news listing does not list "good news," it lists popular news... Please do not say it lists good news, because that's subjective. What is objective, and true, is that it lists popular news. Please clarify that in your writing. :)
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dionyziz Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
When writting the so-called "News Pie" algorithm, the computer program that decides which news get into "Popular", my concern was to make sure good news get in. It's subjective, of course, but the truth is it's not really based on popularity ALONE, judging from meters such as comments count, +hearts count, and uh-oh's. There are many other factors used, to make sure "good news" show up. Let's hope it works well, and it's fine tuned in the future, so that we see good news really getting in ;)
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attila Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Hobbyist Photographer
That's one heck of a system that can distinguish great news from the masses. From all indications, I just thought what you called 'good news' was what the population deemed, lovable. Thanks for setting me straight though. If the company I work for ever develops something that powerful, hell, I'd be out of a job. Have you ever considered work in artificial intelligence?

I just noticed moods can't be set when replying from msg center :)
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ninety-9 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
i like the new way of "filtering" the news by ratings, the possibility to submit your own news BUT what i really miss is some kind of guideline like the old categories.
u could click on the category and had the latest news shown up there, now i have to hope that some headline gives me a hint to with "old category" this news could be related. i cannot just say "hmmm i want some news on this or that and just click this section".
there should be some guidline to navigate through the news, especially if in the near future there will be probably more news submitted due to the new feature of having deviantnews.
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DryBones90 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
cool stuff :)

$lolly pretty much covered what to do about spam/junk news submissions, so there really shouldn't be much of a problem, but just in case maybe there should be a new FAQ on this :P
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lost-visions Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006   Photographer
It's too early to judge the system and say on wether it'll work or not. Give it a couple of months we'll all have a much better view on it. It could go either very well or go totally wrong.

However, what i can say right now is that the disconnection of the news section with the browse section was not a good move.

In v4 you were able to just go to, for instance, the photography section and have the news relevant to the section right there (along with the forum and an overview of recent/favourite/print works). In many ways, that was perfect.

Now everything is four clicks away from each other. Not only does it take four clicks to get from the frontpage of dA to a category page, it takes you another four clicks to get from the category page to the news related to it. Any webdeveloper with some feel for navigations and usability will tell you: that's just bad.

I would suggest for now at least adding clear links so that once you're in the photography news you can with one click go to the photography browse section, and vica versa. And then y'all should get cranking on integrating the two with each other (and the forum) again; it'll greatly improve the usability of this site.
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sumants Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2006   Writer
:heart:
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shutdown Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Interface Designer
:heart:

I love the new feature, it gives the community more freedom as well as a responsibility, to constantly rate articles to keep up the quality. Involving the community is where it's at. :)
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sumants Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2006   Writer
This isn't a community capable of responsibility. Sad but true.
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Motje Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Traditional Artist
You do realize that with this also comes a lot of crap news, which sometimes isn't news at all
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shutdown Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Interface Designer
That is why there's a rating system, which let's the community vote something down. :p
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Motje Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Traditional Artist
Very true.. but that also can be abused. can't it?
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SylverStrike Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
Personally, I feel sort of slightly more insecure with this new news system. Before, I felt as though when I went to look at the news, I'd be finding out everything I need for the rest of the day, but now I'm struggling to come across news articles that are relevant.
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AnnikaAstra Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Writer
yes.....exactly
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mirrorkills Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Also while im here, is there a possible way to allow us to add an image for the header of the article should see which to?
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mirrorkills Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ok. how about an offical news list added in with the popular and newest links?
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Mrichston Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
It is bit strange that some of popular news in frontpage of news are quite old. Maybe there should be timelimit like in browse. Default could be most popular news within month or more.
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Doubtful-Della Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Photographer
They are working on a timestamp as we speak
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bananaprincess Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
Here's another point:
dA is not digg.

Yes, we understand that the IT team apparently loves digg to death.

But dA isn't digg.

If you can say digg "works" in presenting relevant news, that is because digg's users are there for a different reason. Digg's front-page articles are basically chosen and written by hard-core digg users who are perfectly happy to spend hours browsing through news and rating it. The point of digg is to "digg" for important news.

Cool.

But that's not what dA is.
dA is about art. Its users should be here for art. dA's users come (hopefully) to spend time posting art, commenting on art, and discussing art.

Not to "digg" through crap.

Good articles should be readily available on hand to tell deviants about contests, art news, and dA news (you know, like the news system we had before v5).

I feel like this new news system is basically asking deviants to spend time wading through pages and pages of badly written self-promotion, one-line "news items" and spam just to find helpful, relevant news.

This wouldn't be a bad request if dA were a diy news site like digg, where the focus was finding good news items.

But it's not.

It's an art site.
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Doubtful-Della Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Photographer
Although I agree that I like the old way better.... I don't think it's going to change. Now we have to just make the best of it. And by doing that, it means WE have to try to post good articles, and rate them. Please help us make sure the news stays full of GOOD news. thanks
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bananaprincess Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006
Already doing that, thanks.
I've already plowed through a lot and done my "+hearts" and "oh-nos," and we're working on a weekly poetry feature.
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mirrorkills Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
dA has long since gone from being just an art site though. If anything it's more of a social networking site now; with an emphasis on art. It will continue to evolve that way, i assume.
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camelhijackation Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2006
I still think there should be some element of moderation to weed out irrelevant or pointless points. The +heart system does not cut it for me, and many other deviants I've spoken with. I'd rather see "news mods" or a pre-approval system based on quality and relevancy than a just solely "good news post go up, bad stay down."
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AnnikaAstra Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Writer
:nod:
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Doubtful-Della Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Photographer
:clap: I wholeheartedly agree. Kind of like the forum mods!
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imperfect Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2006  Hobbyist Writer
It's still buggy, i know, but i'd like to give you my thoughts :)

I'm the literature GD and we've been using the literature gallery news really effectively for months. We have a team of news writers who share articles they've found while browsing that are lit related and decide whether or not to write their own articles, quoting and citing sources, to post to the lit gallery news. It's worked really well.

I envisaged the new system working slightly differently to how it is now.

Anyone would be able to post news, but to specific categories. The article would display in that category and in "just in" or "newest", until it wasn't new and/or it recieved enough love to be in popular, then it would appear on the main page. People would also be able to browse by category.

The "annoucements" category would be reserved for staff who needed to communicate with the community.

Gallery Directors would be able to manage the news posted in their galleries: if something was in there that wasn't related to their gallery they could just move it from appearing there. If there were duplications we could hide them.

Did you know there was a greasemonkey script that someone made for the lit community that allowed them to "watch" a specific gallery for news, and when a news item was posted they got a message in thier inbox? I think that rocks.

Perhaps this is how it'll work once the bugs are ironed out, it'd be nice to know your thoughts, though :)
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AnnikaAstra Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Professional Writer
Do you have a link to that script? I would love that! (provided it works with dav5?)
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imperfect Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2006  Hobbyist Writer
[link]

I don't think Matt's updated it for v5 yet.
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brennenxr Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2006
It works in v5. :nod:
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imperfect Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2006  Hobbyist Writer
ah excellent! I should pimp this.
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brennenxr Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2006
I enjoy it. :) You should.
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